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 Post subject: 3sgte Camry Alltrac
PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 11:08 am 
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I'm about to begin another round of mods to the Camry so I'm starting a build thread. Ill start with the stuff you already know.

Hears the current mod list.

1990 3sgte swap
MLS head gasket
Maule pistons .020 over 9to1 compression
Shot peened stock rods
ARP fasteners
Block was fully prepped from individually matched cylinder bores
to the ultra smooth deck for the the MLS head gasket
Fully balanced rotating assembly
Flow tested and balanced injectors
Speed Source engine mounts
MAPECU-3 fuel management
ACL race barring’s
Turbo upgrade to ct20b
ATS throttle body inlet
Front mount intercooler
Custom duel core aluminum radiator
HKS SSQ BOV
Greddy profecb boost controller
Greddy oil catch can
Aromotive fuel pressure regulator
Lightened race flywheel and sprung hub six puck racing clutch
SS clutch line
Short throw shifter
Boost gauge and wide band AFR gauge
Wheels 16" drag dr-31 16x7 40mm offset
Tires 225/45/16 BFGoodrich kdw2
Matching full size spare
Megan street dampener coil-overs for an st185 Celica Alltrac
Poly control arm bushings
Energy Suspension sway bar bushings
EBC yellow stuff Pads
Cross drilled, slotted and cryo treated Brembo rotors
Custom SS braided brake lines
3" catles down pipe
Full 3" mandrel bent exhaust
18% window tint
Optima Red Top
Battery relocated to trunk
HID lighting
New leather interior
New paint
JDM rear spoiler
V6 front air dam
De badged
Pioneer AVIC dvd nav
Boston speakers
Alumapro sub
Alpine amps
Powder coated engine components

Hear are some photos of car while I was building it and early after the swap.

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Hear are some later pictures some of witch you may recognize.

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Now to the new stuff. After the PSTOC dyno day that I missed because of work I got the itch for more horsepower so after some research I purchased a MAPECU-3 witch is a very fancy piggy back ECU, hears a list of what it dose.
The MAP-ECU 3 replaces the MAP-ECU 2 and is a major functional upgrade over the MAP-ECU with the following features:

1. USB Interface which also powers the MAP-ECU3 for out of vehicle configuration.
2. Optional WiFi interface to be released shortly after the MAP-ECU3 is released.
3. Built-in +42 PSI MAP Sensor.
4. Additional general purpose Analog Input and Output for FCD, etc.
5. Fully configurable Inputs and Outputs, including TPS and O2 inputs.
6. Advanced Launch Control with Speed Input and Timing Retard.
7. Advanced NOSTM activation with RPM, Throttle, Boost and Speed parameters.
8. Real-time multi-zone tuning.
9. Sixteen (16) operational modes including: MAF Elimination, MAF Intercept, TPS load, and more.
10. Full Timing advance and retard control of up to eight (8) channels for Distributor, Group Fire or Coil On Plug configurations using a 20 x 19 (380 zone) table.
11. Auxiliary Injector control using a 20 x 19 (380 zone) table.
12. OEM O2 & AFR Sensor Adjust 26 x 19 (494 zone) table allowing control over Air/Fuel ratios, even in Closed-loop mode.
13. 10,000 RPM scale.
14. Two (2) complete sets of Fuel, Timing, Auxiliary Injector, O2 Adjust and EBC tables selectable using a dashboard mounted switch.
15. Electronic Boost Control with 1000 RPM target boost points. External and Internal Wastegate support including Fast Spool mode for Internal Wastegates.
16. 2 x Fuel Cut Defeat (FCD) with over boost safety release.
17. Combined Speed Cut Defeat (SCD) and Speed Adjust.
18. Lean Boost Retard safety function
19. External MAP Sensor option
20. User selectable pressure scales
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That's the biggest mod for the summer but I'm not done My inter cooler pipes are getting powder-coated along with some other stuff like the valve cover, I'm sending the brake rotors out to be cryo treated, I just bought a complete cyl head that I plan on building up, so the top end of my engine is as built as the bottom end. So the car is now being stored at Outback autos new location wile John and I complete the mods. The new shop is over three times larger and has an incredibly nice waiting room, the new location is 4054 auburn way N suite 4, new phone is 253 236 8044.
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2. Optional WiFi interface to be released shortly after the MAP-ECU3 is released.


^that is pretty cool

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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 6:02 pm 
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Yea im defantly geting the wifi when it comes out, and thanks!
I need to break 300awhp than ill be happy, but thats what I said about 252 awhp last year.


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nice good luck with everything and hope to see it up and running at pstof.

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what else are you going to do to reach 300hp cuz you will need more then that ECU

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sadly I think Im going to be in Canada during PSTOF but im going to do my best to make it becaus it sound like this year will be huge!


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So the modding begins made some progress today with tare-down.


took the brake apart to get cryo treated
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took out all the turbo plumbing, turbo heat shield, and valve cover for powder-coating. also the intake pipe must be modified due to the removal of the AFM.
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removed the interior prats to expose the areas were the wiring for the new computer will go including launch control and switch for the duel map.
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also did a little work on this car for a customer today the goal is 450 rwhp witch shouldn't be a problem at all. we have a lot of stuff going on this car.
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 Post subject: Re: 3sgte Camry Alltac
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93cc wrote:
what else are you going to do to reach 300hp cuz you will need more then that ECU

What am I missing? I only ran 16 psi on the dyno last time I went and I got 252awhp, and my turbo holds 20 psi up to 7000 rpm (I discovered that when my wastgate hose popped off last year)
and I still had plenty of fuel. 300 is my goal, i think it is attainable, if I don't make it I ll just put the cyl head on that I'm building.


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well our builds are pretty similar except I have water/met and I'm just a little shy of 300

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I thought you were over 300 for some reason, don't you have pretty conservative tune? the thing that I'm worried about is my stock intake manifold it looks so inadequate. well like I said 300 to the wheels is my goal and if I have to do more stuff to make that happen than so be it!


As far as the build goes today I sent the turbo heat shield, charge pipes, intake piping, and valve cover off to powder coat (they should be done Wednesday). I decided to re-engineer the charge pipes to make them a little cleaner, and fit better, although they were pretty good to begin with. The intake pipe also had to be modified to accommodate the removal of the AFM. The rotors got sent out to be cryo treated as well today.


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conservative?? Oh no... I'm making 20-22psi pretty much pushing the limits of that turbo...

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Ah, a built cyl head and ATS intake manifold may be in order than.


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first I need to upgrade my brakes and then whatever turbo I want depending on what I decide to do powerwise but I have pretty much everything I need to have 450 at the wheels other then a better turbo

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nice build.... :thumbup:

one of my favorite ideas was to play a bit with a Camry All-Trac.... my wife had one a loooong time ago, back in NE Pa... so it was VERY rusty :scared:

I had a devilish thought of swapping all the body panels to Lexus IS250 bits to make myself an IS250 All-Trac :eek: but I never got the chance.

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ES250. Sorry it's 3am and I'm now the correcting Nazi lol

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ES250. Sorry it's 3am and I'm now the correcting Nazi lol



DOH....... :cursing:


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I wish they made an alltrac es250. Iv had two es250s and one off the first things i noticed was how different all the body panels are, even though the second gen Camry and es250 loo almost identical the only body parts that swap over with out major modification are the bumpers. I have seen it done, if its done right it looks good if the panels get slapped on it looks terrible.


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Made some progress today.

I got my rotors back from cryo treatment and got them installed along with new EBC yellow stuff pads, the ones I replaced were four years old.

I also finally got my stuff back from powdercoating, everything came out really nice the pictures don't do it justice. The valve cover is wrinkle red and the rest is a dark graphite wrinkle with metallic flake or something in it because in sunlight or bright light it sparkles, it looks really amazing.

Tomorrow I hope to start wiring the computer, my goal is to have it on the dyno for tuning on the first but I don't know if that will happen


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Man, I love this car.... One of these days... I'll fall into one....

Thanks, I feel the same way about your Supra

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Looking good... I really like the new powdrcoated bits

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Very nifty!

Now as for cryo treating rotors, I'm a bit rusty on metallurgy but wouldn't the heat generated from heavy usage kinda reverse it? I know the heat is so great it can warp them in stock form and can see how this can help the first few times to prevent that but wouldn't repeated abuse slowly expand the molecules back to the original formation? This is just me thinking out loud and I am by no means an expert on any of these subjects, I just find it curious. :)

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Very nifty!

Now as for cryo treating rotors, I'm a bit rusty on metallurgy but wouldn't the heat generated from heavy usage kinda reverse it? I know the heat is so great it can warp them in stock form and can see how this can help the first few times to prevent that but wouldn't repeated abuse slowly expand the molecules back to the original formation? This is just me thinking out loud and I am by no means an expert on any of these subjects, I just find it curious. :)



I don't have an explanation for this but my understanding cryo treatment is pretty permanent the rotors would have to get hotter than they do on the car to undo the process.


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So yesterday was another day of progress.
I managed to get the computer wired up, installed the switches for the launch control and duel fuel maps. Also installed the new boost control solenoid, put the interior all back together, and got the car to start. All that's left is to load a base map and get the car on the dyno, its looking like 7/1 at drift office my be the day!


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Today I got a base map installed and ran the car, seems to be ok so tomorrow I going to drive it and play around with the software and hopefully dyno on the first.


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So the car obviosly did not make it to the dyno on friday, so the goal is to have it ready for PSTOF so were going to take our time. There was to much other stuff going on in the shop, we are doing four compleet builds on WRX motors right now( 20psi and they go boom! in stock trim even the STI) and thers also the Supra. So in the next couple of weeks John and I ar going to take a couple of days off to devote to the Camry because we want it to be perfect. I did drive it on thursday but with out a proper tune it wasnt much fun.


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Unexpected mods! my friend sold me two Alpine amps at a price I couldn't refuse. I replaced my single anemic Clarion 250w amp with an 850w mono for my Alumapro sub and added a 450w 4chanel amp for my front and rear speakers. Everything sounds so much clearer at high volume.


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